Remington 870 Or Mossberg 590
I have heard that the Mossberg has the hardest recoil of any Tactical Shotgun around.The Remington 870 is a nice shotgun as well. A good friend of mine has one for home defense. He complains of the recoil, but I have heard that the 870 kicks less than a Mossberg 500. Post subject: Re: Remington 870 or Mossberg 590? Posted: Tue Jun.
Remington 870 Or Mossberg 590 Rifle
Hello:I have been shooting a Remington 870 TB since 1970. The only things that ever broke were an action bar and the spring that went over the firing pin. I feel that it is a great gun and very durable. It breaks trap targets with absolute authority.Years ago, I also owned a Mossberg anniversary trap gun from the late 60's with great wood that had a Monte Carlo stock along with a 30 inch trap barrel. I only shot it for a year and the reason I got rid of it was the pistol grip was cut a bit to far back and I had trouble reaching the trigger.I ran into someone who swears by the Mossberg 500 as being the most durable pump shotgun ever made?
He told me that is the only gun that ever passed military specs #3443 which includes shooting 3,000 buck shot rounds, as the gun was baked, frozen, droped, and still functioned.What gun would be your preference in order to protect your life, the 870 or the the 500 and why?Steve BalistreriWauwatosa Wisconsin. Click to expand.I have seen the narrative, below, on the military specs #3443 test before, I found this one on;Remington never bothered to submit a gun for the military specs #3443 test.The test is nothing more than a minimum pass-fail test. Steve, you mentioned home defense. That is totally different from using these guns as trap guns.If I were to pick one as a trap gun, it would probably the the 870, because of aesthetics, weight (thought the Mossberg can be ballasted), smoothness (for a Wingmaster anyway) and availability of proper buttstocks.If I were to pick one as a purely defensive shotgun, it would be the Mossberg. For defensive models, the 870 and 500/590 are close, but the Mossbergs have one distinct advantage over the 870, and that's what happens should a shell jump the shell stop (which can happen for a variety of reasons including short stroking). With the Mossberg, the shell simply falls to the ground. With the 870, the shell winds up sitting between the lifter and the closed bolt, jamming the action and requiring the gun be disassembled to clear.A number of years ago Remington made a special lifter that had a U cut into it, forming a tab.
Mossberg 500 Vs Remington 870
This tab was designed to deform under the rim of a shell that jumped the latch, so by brute force the bolt could be forced open by pushing the shell into this tab. This was standard on many defense 870s, especially those for law enforcement. Retrofit kits were available. I don't know if Remington is still offering this tabbed lifter.
If they are, then this issue becomes a moot point providing you have the brute strength to clear the gun and the time under duress to do it. Women are the most vulnerable to this, as without adequate training they sometimes shortstroke a shotgun and lack the strength to clear it.
590 Vs 870
A 20 ga Mossberg is probably a better choice for them, though I'd go further and suggest an 1187 for recoil management.For hunting, I prefer the 870, but the 500 and 835 have one big advantage over the 870, and that's the ability to have the receiver completely disassembled, including removing the shell stop, etc, as these parts are held in place by pins instead of being staked in place. So if you hunt in wet weather or salt marshes, the 500 and 835 are better suited for those environments. This also applies to shotguns for boat defense, though both companies offer plated mariner models.As for the safety, I prefer the Remington.
No problem using the Mossberg, and it is ambidextrous. However, the Mossberg safety is plastic on most models, but a metal retrofit kit is available.A Mossberg 590 similar to this has been my home defense and tactical shoot shotgun for almost three decades. Mine differs in that the buttstock is the old Davis Speedfeed, holding four extra shells.Edit: A couple of other comments:The Mossberg is available in a much wider variety of tactical and defense models than the 870.And the main difference between the 500 and 590/835 is how the barrel is mated to the mag tube. The 500 has a blind magazine. The 500 and 835 have an open mag tube that is much easier to clean out. This is only important on guns that get wet or get sand or other debris in them.